So, I like Gears of War. I think it's a brilliant game, and while it may not be the most innovative experience I've ever gotten my hands on, it takes known concepts in gaming (and a few unknowns) and does them so damn well that it makes an entirely 
new and scrumptious experience. When it comes to shooters, I'm a very competetive guy, so color me suprised to find myself writing this article on today of all days.
Today is Emergence Day.
Despite Gears hitting stores early last week, today is Microsoft's official "kickoff celebration" for the game's release -- there will be giveaways and drawings for random swag and some nice 5.1 surround systems, some cool content on XBL marketplace and a "freakin' sweet" guitar awarded to the player who, at the end of the day, is the number-one ranked player on the XBL leaderboards for Gears
This may all sound pretty sweet, but the sad truth is that this day of all days serves only to underscore the utterly broken ranked-game system (and ultimately the rankings all together) that Epic's masterpiece employs.
Don't believe me? Check this shit out.
Stacked Matches
I was among those who bitched and moaned when Epic announced that ranked games in GoW wouldn't let you join with friends. I imagined a system like we've seen recently in Call of Duty 2 or Splinter Cell: Double Agent where you click the "I want to play" button and get shuffled into a random ranked game with random people. While that system is annoying, it's at least honest and keeps everyone at the same disadvantage. Gears of War has a similar system... that nobody uses. When looking for a ranked match in GoW, you're presented with three options: quickmatch (the only time the TrueSkill(tm) system is actually used for matchmaking... more on this later), search for custom match, or host a match. What follows is the sordid and extremely complicated method for getting into a ranked game with all your friends:
b) Send a message to your friends saying "I hosted a match;"
c) Said friends scroll through the server list until they find the one that is hosted by you (the host's name is the first column on the left and occupies more space than anything else in the ranked screen).
Whew! I'm tired after that.
While Epic's intentions here may have been noble, in attempting to appease both Microsoft (Hey, we use your TrueSkill System! No friends allowed in ranked games!) and hardcore gamers (Hey, you can't join with friends... *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*), what they actually did was make ranked games very dangerous to go into without breaking the system yourself and sneaking friends in on your side.
Sabotage
So far I've talked about stacking matches, which honestly I can condone. I think it was a really silly thing for Epic to implement, but since the ability is there I won't fault people for taking advantage of it (hell, i've done it myself).
However, let's think about this for a second: Since smuggling people into a game is easily done, who's to say an enterprising clan stops at four?
I had an interesting experience this morning playing a match against a group of gamers all similarly clan-tagged. The strange part is they weren't that good, but there was something wrong with my team. Spectrumpigg (whom I met during the match -- he was the only one with a headset on my team) and I were playing pretty well, we were covering each other and taking down some of the other team. One of the guys on our team was playing moderately well and one of them was acting... suspciously.
At first Spec and I thought he was just awful, since it seemed like he was the first one dead nine times out of 10, but things got funky when I got tagged by a lucky shot and watched WoOZY v2 in the spectator channel.
When I caught up to him, both sides had been in a standoff situation at the Sniper Tower on Gridlock. Suddenly, WoOZY v2 breaks cover, runs into the center, grabs the rifle and roadie-runs away from our team -- towards the enemy.
Interestingly, the bad guys didn't shoot at him but popped up and dropped enough fire on our remaining teammates to keep them from seeing what was really happening. WoOZY, who must not have known I had already died, then ran over to the rampart overlooking the boomshot where a CoG was waiting. The CoG didn't shoot and WoOZy ignored him, instead swapping the sniper rifle for the hammerburst (a backup weapon, at best).
The CoG then shot him in the head, took the sniper rifle and went back to finish off our now outnumbered and outgunned survivors.
Wow.
As if that wasn't proof enough, after the game when I was leaving him feedback I noticed his motto, which reads "real account is [name protected because i've already filed a terms of service complaint about him with MS]."
Needless to say, the real GamerTag had the same clan tags as the guys on the other team. Bottom line here, thanks to the way ranked games are handled, it's stupidly easy to not only get friends on your team but also get a friend with a 48-hour pass on the other team to tilt the odds that much more in your favor.
The 4v3 Syndrome
In unranked games, you can play games 1v1, 1v2, 2v2, 2v3, 3v3, 3v4, 4v4. If you get creative with your team stacking methods, you can even manage games like 1v3 or 2v4.
This is totally cool, and I applaude it frankly -- I think the more customization we have in multiplayer games like this, the better. Where I start to take issue is when you can have unbalanced teams in ranked games AND the host has the ability to start matches without players indicating that they're ready.
Now, when I say unbalanced I'm talking about a very specific situation. Apparently the TrueSkill(tm) system doesn't work without at least six players in the room, but as soon as that number is hit it's all good. For example, if the host of the game wants to assure a win for his side all he has to do is wait for his side to get four players, the other side to get three, and then hit the "start" button -- which forces all unready players to instantly show as "ready," lock their team choice and character selection; and start an unstoppable five-second countdown to the start of the game.
I guess the real questions are what made it so hard to require an even number of players to start a ranked game and why do players have the ability to press "ready" if it doesn't have any impact on when the host starts the game. Both good questions that lack any sort of answer at all.
Point Farming
This one is actually the next step in the 4v3 situation as described above. Because of the way the ranking system works in Gears of War, there is a rather unique and unfortunate opportunity for using new/unskilled players to farm massive amounts of points. First, a clan (which in this case refers to any group of people who enter a ranked match together) host a game of "execution" with the "bleed out" time changed from 20 to 10 and use the 4v3 method described above. Usually the game will be set to five-minute rounds with the win condition set to "first to 10." This particular trick was first documented by our own Mike, who was on a team with three clanmates practicing it.
Then the fun starts. The clan members use their superior numbers/tactics to quickly eliminate all but one player. They all crowd around his "down-but-not-killed" body and stay at least 10 feet or so away from him. Because the game type is "elimination," unless somebody actually gets close enough to stomp on his head and finish him off, he'll be forced to respawn (remember that 10-second bleed out time? In elimination, that's how long it takes for you to get back up, and you can make it faster by pounding on the A button). Each time he gets up, the other team unloads into him and one of them gets another "down," which is worth more points than a kill. ; This happens every 10 seconds for the remainder of the game, which in the fast-paced Gears of War is often as long as four minutes. In the game that Mike witnessed, each clan member had more than 30 downs by the end of round 10.
TrueSkill in Name Only
I could rant about this for a while, but the long and the short of it is that nobody uses the TrueSkill(tm) matchmaking system because you're not forced to. In Gears of War, the Trueskill(tm) system has been effectively turned into a hijacked shuttle bus, delivering unsuspecting noobs into the hands of more experienced and organized teams of point-farming jackasses at regular intervals.
Good job Microsoft.
Who This Really Hurts
The noobs. Not all of us are hardcore gamers who pre-order games months before they release and take days off from work to spend a good 12 hours not moving from the couch. While I've been playing Gears since Tuesday, I know plenty of people who are just turning the online portion on for the first time, seeing 'Hey, prizes!" and trying their hand at the rank in hopes of phat l00tz -- only to run into a clan-tagged squad and spend a solid 10 rounds of execution making that difficult choice between dropping from a ranked game and getting the negative feedback you know they'll be sure to pile on, or getting "downed" but not "killed" over and over and over again as the clan farms their violated avatar for points.
All this in the name of Emergence Day and the search for "phat 1ootz."
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How the hell wer they not aware of this? This was found almost instantly after the demo launch of Battlefield 2, which has been out for over a year now (in that case using a friendly opposition player to just revive and get himself massive points while the other side shot the noob). Eventually, the whole game will be a bunch of cheaters above noob play, which means that gamers will be doing well, then run into a skill level where they are no longer playing against legit opponents.
It can be fixed with a very simple correction.
Remove host name from ranked games.
Yeah I've only played one ranked game. The thing that immediately jumped out at me is, Wow, this is quite. I took out one guy and then got downed by his parter. No problem, I was behind cover with a teammate right next to me. No problem, he can revive me right? Nope, instead he killed the guy who'd downed me and proceeded to finish the rest of the match right next to me, but not actually helping me. The kicker, after about 18 seconds of standing practically on top of me, he got sawed in half and I got stomped. Heaven forbid he revive me though, I might earn points that way. What a joke.
Epic has created a team game and made the system punish team play. Personally the only reason I like ranked games is 'cause it keeps the rank whores all in one place and not in my game. Who cares what your rank is? Its retarded. I just wish that they had a better matchmaking system a la Halo 2 that gets you into a game against another team of 4. Wether its ranked or not is irrelevant, just get me into a game with my friends.
Any kind of ranking system, without fail, will have someone who only wants to show off. I think Battlefield 2142 has something like 5 people on the top of its leader board who got there through hacking the stat system. Then again maybe you can earn 30,000 points after only playing for 20 minutes.
Hell you get points for reviving someone. Why would you not want to revive? I'd revive you and hope you get shot again. ;)
I will probably be destroyed over and over when I step foot onto the GoW multiplayer. I am usually not that good at 3rd person shooters online so I will spend a lot of time in single player and coop practicing. I will try a ranked game once or twice but for the most part, player match works for me.
I haven't played any ranked matches yet, but now I'm not sure if I even want to...
I've noticed if you join a game right away after you refresh, especially the 1 out of 8 player games, you're able to join most of the time.
For me the "Unable to connect" errors happen when the game is actually filled, so I think the error messages are wrong. Just think about it, have you ever seen a "Unable to join, game full" message? I haven't.
Give it a shot, I was having the same problem the first 1 or 2 hours I played. But since I've been doing the said technique, I've been able to join like.. 9 out of 10 times..
This game hasn't even been out for a week, much less the stores farther away from the factories that took a day or two longer to get, the shipping mess ups for the people who ordered the collector's edition from EB and GameStop. Alot of people (particularly the hardcore shooter fans, who'd be more likely to order the CE) didn't even get the game until thursday or friday. Maybe the TrueSkill ranking hasn't had time to separate out the best people yet. I know it's crazy to think that maybe this isn't some kind of cheater's conspiracy, but sometimes things just are what they are. Maybe the guy with the sniper rifle was new at the controls and honestly just got beat down. There are very few good third person shooters out there, and the ones there are usually have lock on targeting or a shoddy control scheme. Maybe the names seemed similar and you're so used to boosters on Battlefield 2 and CoD2 that you're looking for something that's probably not there.
El Prez:
Couple things, first off I think this game is damn good. We're doing our full-blown hour long audio review of it later this week, and I have many more good things to say about it than this bad stuff.
That said, everything I detailed in the article is true. Not only that, it's relatively easy to do. Cheating in games like Halo 2 or Splinter Cell required hacks, complicated glitches, or modified boxes.... All you have to do in Gears of War is have bad intentions and enough brain power to figure out how to work the system.
As far as Trueskill not having time to set itself yet, you're right. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter because the system allows gamers to completely ignore it with (once again) the server list option... If you choose which server you join, how is the match being made for you? If you manually select which game you join, at what point does the TrueSkill system match you with people of similar skill?
It doesn't.
To reiterate again,
Great Game
Very Poorly Designed, and utterly Broken Ranked System.
Oh, I forgot to mention this
A reader caught me on AIM a few hours ago and pointed out that the WoOZY guy I talk about in the Sabotage section's main account is in the same clan as the current #1 player on the GoW leaderboards.
What a coincidence
Thanks for the explanation, I was wondering how people who've only had the game a couple of days are already getting 69,000+ points on the leaderboard.
I guess the top scores are all the point farmers.
Has there ever been a ranked Xbox Live game that people didn't find a way to manipulate? I'm not defending GoW, but any time you introduce rankings, you simply create an incentive for some people to behave at their worst. It would be interesting to see a game like GoW come out with no ranked games - just player match. Then people could just play for fun. Remember fun? It used to be the whole point.
I have found that for those of you less vain playing unranked matches is quite fun. i have played about 10 hours online so far. in all my matches i only found 2 annoyances the occasional cannot connect to host, and one kid who thought he was awesome cause the only thing he could do was blow people up with the nade launcher (more of a personal thing that real annoyance) but other than that my online experiance has been a good one. of said 10 hours about 4 were with some good friends of mine.
so not to be the momma of the posters but for those of you out there looking for fun and not points try unranked games you don't get the lame people trying for points just get kids skilled or unskilled who just wanna have fun
I have not seen any of this stuff online yet. I don't see the point of playing ranked, when you can play a fun games with your friends (easily) instead. The only problem that I have is that my Xbox freezes every so often. I know I can get it repaired for free from Microsoft, but I don't want to give up my ability to play Gears while it is being repaired.
It's our fault because we're too busy not wanting to smell bad and melt into the couch. I no longer play multiplayer FPS over 360 anymore, because of exactly what the first commenter mentioned - at a certain point, you stop playing legitimate opponents and start playing 13-year olds with no respect for gaming.
I agree that the best idea is to do away with the ranking system. Epic has always loved the "world stats" concept, but I don't think it does anything to improve gameplay or the fun of the game. Rather, it encourages selfishness over teamwork and it supports cheating at the expense of enjoyment. Silly tactics like the "down but not out" trick would make no sense in an unranked world. I still play SoF2 on my PC all the time, and I get plenty of enjoyment out of it even though there are no global rankings.
Are there many people playing this game online? While playing with my brother I kept seeing many of the same folks over and over. Incidentally, if you don't play in the ranked servers, you don't have any problems. At least none that I was aware of. I myself am just a casual gamer, but my brother and his clan are much more serious and are playing only unranked games or organized scrimmages. The "ranked" playerbase is almost immutably the one most filled with jerkoffs in my experience. If you want casual, just play unranked, if you want serious games, using the in-game ranking is horrible anyway, use something like gamebattles.
Plus, those jerkoffs can use the free 48hr Xbox live goldcard to create a disposable account that can be raped for free points easily. Pointfarmers need a swift kick in the balls, not cool swag. It's frustrating to play well all day and go down in the rankings...
If anyone's read "Ender's Game", it's clear that ranking is overrun by corruption.
Besides the free 48hour deals, if you sign up a silver acount MS automatically gives you a 1 month gold trial. All you need is the ability to make up a name and adress. I used completley made up info the other day so i could have a friend play online with me on my xbox. Which brings up another point of contention, i was anoyed enough that it's only 2 way split screen but the fact that i cant have a guest in non ranked matches (like i coudl in halo2) realy chaps my ass. on the upside, once i got the fake acount set up and started playing, i went for about 8 hours non stop cause it was so fucking fun. (and that was 2on2)
Stay away from ranked games and it's def worth the trouble.
Unfortunately, multiplayer achievements are limited to ranked games only. Smart move there MS/Epic.
You know what 360 game has a great trueskill ranked system? The Outfit.
I haven't really ran into any horror stories yet. I haven't played all that much, I do run into pissy people though. They see that I don't have a bunch of kills, and think I suck and all, maybe I do, but the game is for fun. I did find one group of people on a ranked game that were a blast to play with, knew how to play, and helped me learn a few things, all the while, beating the crap out of the other team because our team knew how to play. We didn't cheat, we were just smart, and talked to each other. When our game was done, one guy on our team, who was the host, then said he was hosting another game, so I jumped off, waited a few seconds, searched for a game, and joined his game. We then went in, and played another level, and beat them again....but not because we cheated, because we were smart about the game. So yeah, in some ways, having the hosts name is good, but I guess in others it's not so good. People just need to not cheat, it's just stupid. That's the reason I don't usually play games like this, there are too many cheaters.
Unfortunately, trueskill is a certification requirement and ranked games happen this way because MS won't publish the game otherwise. Not being able to technically invite a friend to a ranked match is REQUIRED by MS. This is not Epic's fault.
Hey Aaron, you can have guests in unranked matches...Make sure the second player profile is NOT signed in, click "join player match", and there will be a Y button option for "Guest sign-in"
Why Epic hid this option so well I'll never know...I only found out about this from reading the Epic forums. Two player splitscreen guests on unranked matches is a BLAST.
That's not true about Trueskill, Weee. There are several other games (Chromehounds, Saint's Row) that allow people to play ranked games with friends and use Trueskill. Epic may be saying that, but multiple other posts by developers have basically discounted that. Epic just didn't do it right, either because of lack of time or laziness.
Why do people still play Halo 2 two years after it was released? Its because of the multiplayer system. If epic doesnt fix the mulitplayer system in GOW, its gonna die after about a month, you can only play co-op for so long. And pretty soon everyone will go back to playing halo 2.
WOW you must of realy suckd at this game ...firt off rank matches dont meen shit and if you have trueskilles like you say dont matter what room or what player you playing....i meen i got the game when it came out play maybe 2 or 3 houre a day and dont care if i join a rank roomwere one team knows or been playing together for a while if you got SKILLS DONT MATTER WHO WERE WHEN.....so quit complaining just cuz you suck ...
PS : dont reply cuz wont read your dumbass post
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English dies.
I think you meant I BlAz3d uP I butchers English....
I am now dumber for having read that comment.
This is woozy and ive been gettin messages all day about me cheating, well i didnt cheat. I was helping my friend get 1 of his achievements. If u check my real gamertag i dont have any achievements in matchmaking so everyone fuck off, I dont cheat, so leave me alone.
Alex/Woozy: Want to tell your side of the story? Drop me an email at adam.levine@gamerandy.com and we'll do a quick interview... It'll get posted in the followup story
Okay... so lemme get this straight...
You weren't "cheating," you were just helping out the other team by signing up for an opposing team and then handing them over better weapons so they could beat the team you were on.
Oh, no. That's not cheating!!!
You and Jeffery Skilling should chat. You two have a lot in common.
Woozy,
Post your real gamer tag so we can clear this all up quickly!
Oh PLEASE do a live interview on GA Live...
Point farming is just like stat padding in BF2. All you need is a friend to join you in a 1vs1 match or even better 2vs1 match so you can get revive points. I just want to have fun playing the damn game, I do not want to sit around and kill,revive,kill,revive.etc,etc.etc..
they should have a clan system (like halo2) if they want to keep ranked how it is, but they really need to fix some of the aspects ranked matches but untill they do. man im having a ton of fun playing regular player matches with my friends. and theres never a shortage of people.
yesterday 3 friends and myself went through the hassle of being on the same team in ranked games. it's a bit dick, i realize that, but what i most liked was i was able to have fun. instead of some idiot who thinks the game is halo 2 getting himself killed and thus getting me flanked and dead, i had friends who talked and laughed with me. i never thought about getting friends in ALL slots, or the pointsfarming, which is just plain awful, but i think there are instances where you can abuse the workarounds and not be a completely jerk. "if you wanna play with your friends play unranked" you say. well, we tried but for a while I think everyone was jonesing for that guitar so they were all in ranked, but after a while we went back to unranked. i actually had less fun in unranked cause this guy would consistently bumrush you with a shotgun and oneshot kill you EVERYTIME, or would stick grenades to you. and no matter what you did, shoot him, run away, he always got you. the guy kicked ass, but where theres no counterstrategy, it gets pretty irksome.
counterstrategy is dont get flanked and if he runs at you roll away and shoot him.
It's nothing new to have ranking systems exploited. Look at the leaderboards of any sports game on the market. In past years people found ways to get wins without even playing. They could disconnect at the start of a game and end up with a victory. Best thing to do is not pay much attention to the leaderboards since they're all BS anyways, and if you're playing with someone who just ruins a game to have their name at the top of some lame list, kick them out of your match. This type of thing will always happen when people with no lives need to live vicariously through a fictional character and would rather make use of glitches instead of actually have fun playing the game.
Hey, when the people win the GOW prizes, they'll be posted, we then can all put a complaint into Microsoft that they cheated and manipulated the system to win the prizes.
Another way to fix the multiplayer is to set a points multiplier based upon your team. The more you play with the same people, the lower the multiplier goes. Would discourage guilds.
While I know that guilds are a big thing for a lot of online players, it seems like a lot of the problems stem from their use.
BTW - Rihahn that was one of the funniest comments I have ever read
Another hting that annoys me on ranked matches is how people will just drop out when they are at a loss. Get over your selves people and play the game so what if you tkae a loss don't screw over your team mates.
I've been playing ranked matches casually over the past few days in order to start racking up the kill tallies for the achievements. I've only got about 30 matches under my belt and I can say that for at least 25 of those I sucked too badly to even notice if someone was cheating.
That said, I'm getting a little better and still having fun. I could give two poops about my ranking score.
I feel the same way. They should make everything ranked like rainbow six was or make nothing ranked. But the least they could do is let friends in. This is bullshit ill probably get rid of the game a lot earlier now.
Do I really have to play ranked matches to unlock the multiplayer achievements? That is a lame way to do I think! Why not give the achievemnts to to unranked players to???
i dont really care bout rank but my brother does first of all he doesnt cheat n he was ranked 10th at one point n me i play rank all d time of get cheated but dont quit n still average 200 to 300 points a game n i help u if ur down
First of all in every game with any ranking system there will be the dickheads who cheat to get to the top. Personally I have played more than 400 ranked matches(mostly in Execution and Warzone only abot 30 in assasination.) and I've not seen any point farming or cheating going on. Now granted most of the matches at the begining I really sucked bad so I might've missed it but overall I haver not seen much of what you described here. With one exception: clan matching. When a group of four runs through hosting games and can completely decsimate the other team due to thier superior ability to acctually have brains and use stratagy. The only and I mean ONLY reason having four friends together is unfair is to the noobs who can't seem to work together as a team. I have layed against multiple cla when I have entered games and as long as you and the other players coordiate it can still be a very well contested match. On a side note people who are in clans arn't neccesarily good either. I mean I sucked my first matches and I've gotton a little better but I'm not insanely good or anything and I've ended iup beating entire 4 person groups of the same clan in ranked with only 1 other teammate or by myself. However I do agree everyone would be better served if t
Sorry about the post above I was interrupted. anyway here is my complete post:
First of all in every game with any ranking system there will be the dickheads who cheat to get to the top. Personally I have played more than 400 ranked matches(mostly in Execution and Warzone only abot 30 in assasination.) and I've not seen any point farming or cheating going on. Now granted most of the matches at the begining I really sucked bad so I might've missed it but overall I haver not seen much of what you described here. With one exception: clan matching. When a group of four runs through hosting games and can completely decsimate the other team due to thier superior ability to acctually have brains and use stratagy. The only and I mean ONLY reason having four friends together is unfair is to the noobs who can't seem to work together as a team. I have layed against multiple cla when I have entered games and as long as you and the other players coordiate it can still be a very well contested match. On a side note people who are in clans arn't neccesarily good either. I mean I sucked my first matches and I've gotton a little better but I'm not insanely good or anything and I've ended up beating entire 4 person groups of the same clan in ranked with only 1 other teammate or by myself. However I do agree everyone would be better served if they simply copied and pasted Halo 2 matchmaking system instead of using Retarded TrueSkill.
hey,read your article,not really expierenced any of what you mention but i generally prefer player matches where there is less cheating since there isnt any overall ranking.anyways whilst in a player match at the tyro station i believe,i was on the cog team and it was 4v4 some1 dropped from locust and it was 4v3 only somebody else signed onto the server,instead of going too the locust they were put on the cogs automatically,as we were in the middle of a game so they couldnt choose.this made it a 5v3!!!!bad bug perhaps but it was funny as hell!we all set off together to show the other 3 this fact!when it showed you the kills/downs after a round it wouldnt show the worst player outta the 5 which kepted changing.had a laugh about it with the locust once the match wa sdone and evened the teams.
i have been in the odd ranked matched,but i dont really care for it, i have played with friends on player and had more fun.just doin a player match is more fun,the people are just friendlier and obviously aret selfish kill stealers or constant cheaters most of the time.i think we should keep ranked matches,it does keep the divs in one corner and the people who want to enjoy can stick too player matches.
ranked matches are a prime cheating zone,pes6 people have been modem pausing,but i dont let them get away with it,il go down the pub and leave it on,see if there still wanting a 3-0 hours later dam fools.keep ranked so that losers can stay away from fun seekers
yeah this online game design has been in every fps on the 360. i have perfect dark, graw, gears of war and cod2-all had crap online format. i have saints row and Saints row had the best online format but horrible gameplay. if its format was used in other fps on 360 it wuld b an improvement. How about jst copyin halo 2 online...only bst multi playa game ever (is microsoft retarded???or the game developers???) i hope halo3 dnt folow suit coz tht would ruin it
well. I agree that sometimes teams get stacked, but A: You can usualy tell. if u enter a room with 6 people and noone wants to go to 1 side then that can be a hint or if they are all talking like there friends or especially if they names are similar obviously but. I have managed to keep my rank in the top 4000 overall none the less. If you are great at the game you can find ways to beat good teams even on your own. True skill is True skill youve either got it or not. There is no better feeling in gears then to take on a clan single handedly or with only one god player and beating the hell out of them. Kepp practicing stop whining cheating will never go away in any game or forms of life. My name is my gamertag if anyone wants a beatdown
well. I agree that sometimes teams get stacked, but A: You can usualy tell. if u enter a room with 6 people and noone wants to go to 1 side then that can be a hint or if they are all talking like there friends or especially if they names are similar obviously but. I have managed to keep my rank in the top 4000 overall none the less. If you are great at the game you can find ways to beat good teams even on your own. True skill is True skill youve either got it or not. There is no better feeling in gears then to take on a clan single handedly or with only one god player and beating the hell out of them. Kepp practicing stop whining cheating will never go away in any game or
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